ShadyNarcotics

I completely agree with you that if you take Kobe off of those Laker teams they wouldn't of won those 3 titles, like I said before. But instead of just removing him from those teams, if you replace him with one of the top perimeter players in the league, like T-Mac or Vince Carter they would've been equally successful (given the fact that Carter and Tracy stay healthy)

And I said it was a team game in response to you saying Kobe won three rings. Basketball is a team game, Kobe sure didn't win those rings by himself, so you can't use that point. Shaq wouldn't of won those three rings without a top perimeter player, and sure as hell no top perimeter player like Kobe would've won those rings without either Duncan or Shaq, in a decade dominated by the bigs. But then again you can judge how a player has an effect on his team. LeBron had a win share % of 20 last season which is among the 20 greatest of all time while Kobe's 12 barely hit the top 250 all time. (I'm using last years because the season is only half way through)

Although you criticize my arguments you continue to provide no basis or detail for your claims.

.FLOJO.

again with the hypotheticals ..
Now tell me .. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW they wouldve won a ring without Kobe .. I disagree .. CAUSE WE DONT KNOW
and I dont want to turn this into a Kobe > T-Mac, Carter .. or anybody else you wanna bring up cause thats dumb ... besides .. look at those dudes .. they are nowhere near where Kobe is now .. and YEES that has a lot to do with everything .. it shows Kobe's superiority in conditioning and everything else .. not to mention Kobe has always just had a better knack of doing what is the right thing most of the time .. far more than any player you wanna bring up that has nothing to do with this thread .. and even if you disagree .. and wanna take it into a tangent .. it doesnt change the fact we would never know anyway

What we do know .. is that Kobe won
thats all I need to shut it down .. Now Lebron on the other hand HASNT won anything .. is it really that hard to understand .. ??
SOoo I gave you and out .. I said .. picture them as individual players ..
and IMO .. and many others opinions .. Kobe is far superior ..
that is a FAR more intriguing argument because the team concept is negated by truth and circumstance .. I dont really think it fares well in a thread like this anyway
cause each and every time .. it will always come back to hardware

so instead of coming at me with shit out of thin air, shit that you really cant prove b/c #1 it doesnt exist .. never will .. use what is there .. REAL LIFE SHIT .. shit thats happened .. you wont cause you cant
and #2 again for christs sake .. TEAMS have nothing to do with it when it comes to the two as individuals .. the last time I checked this was a KOBE vs. Lebron thread
NOT Lakers Vs. Cavs

Kobe > Lebron for the billionth time because life has proven so ..

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Riggs

wow its like someone is paying yall to type this SMH, anyway MJ > .

skeetdogg

Word, wheres Al!

.FLOJO.

STFU and come give me a kiss nigger!

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D@MN JOKeR

Rent 'em spoons!!

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