Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take - DaShadyBoard.com

D@MN JOKeR · 01-13-2010, 05:49 AM

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Easily the biggest news to hit in recent weeks was the word that Sony has scrapped production on Spider-Man 4 and will reboot the character with a new film (and, presumably, an ensuing series) featuring a new cast and creative team. A general 2012 date has been mentioned, but no specific date has yet been set; expect the studio to stake a claim in May, and for any other films in that region to shift accordingly. Will Sony battle Marvel, which has The Avengers penned in for early May? You bet.

With such big news hitting early in the week, outlets are already crawling around looking for tidbits of info, and there are a few useful things to know about Spider-Man v2.0 that we didn’t cover in our first report.

First up, while I thought the facts were implicit in Sony’s press release, let’s be explicit: the new script by James Vanderbilt has already been written.

Variety notes that Sony “has long had” Vanderbilt’s script ready as a contingency plan. In other words, when he was hired to write Spider-Man 5 and 6, which were mentioned as possible reboot fodder, what he was really doing was writing this fresh start on the character. Given that Sony doesn’t want to do anything that will potentially see Spider-Man go back to Marvel, the studio was smart. (See a note about being ’smart’ at the end of this piece.)

According to EW, the idea was to have the reboot ready to go as soon as Spidey 4 was done. But when discussions about that film went nowhere, Vanderbilt’s new take was given priority. Now they’re ready to go with a script.

We don’t know much about what that script entails, other than it will feature a younger teenage Peter Parker. EW calls the script “gritty, contemporary” and references Batman Begins, seemingly not only in the sense that Christopher Nolan reinvented Batman on film, but in the sense of tone. Which would be a shame. Let’s have anything but a gritty Spider-Man, please. Anyone with a shred of understanding of the character knows that, while the stories can be heavy, ‘gritty’ isn’t what makes Spider-Man universally appealing.

There’s speculation already (as by Devin at CHUD) that this is a grab for some of the Twilight tween energy and fanbase. But I just see this as a cheaper, easier move. Sam Raimi directed three films, so is it easier to bring a new director into his world, or create a new world altogether? The latter, as Anne Thompson suggests, and I think she’s right. This will definitely be cheaper, as Sony has just shed a couple of names with big dollar signs attached. Spider-Man 3 cost almost $300m, and the fourth film could easily have gone that high. Now can the studio make this reboot for $200m or less? One would hope so.

Who directs this leaner, cheaper beast? More important, who has the right touch to follow Raimi, who is a director with both a real soul and a deep, practical background in making comic book-style movies? EW mentions a couple of names, saying that Marc Webb, director of (500) Days of Summer, has cropped up, but doesn’t say in what context. The mag also mentions Gary Ross, hired to write one of the last Spider-Man 4 drafts, and Michael Bay, who has expressed interest in the character. Those latter two seem unreasonable; I’d consider any of the three a surprise hire. (And, to echo Anne Thompson again, let’s hope it’s not McG.)

(Edited to add: One point I forgot is that Sam Raimi has indicated that he knows Spider-Man 3 wasn’t up to snuff. The primary reason I’ve seen to be interested in the scuttled fourth movie is that Raimi had a real creative incentive to make it a killer. Everyone wants to go out on a high note. If he’d been allowed to let that impluse free, we could have come out of this with two great films — 2 and 4. That Sony wasn’t interested implies — implies, mind you — volumes to me. No way of knowing; maybe Raimi’s ideas really weren’t good. But if they were, and Sony would rather go this route? Ouch.)

So: about being smart. From a couple of business perspectives, this is arguably a smart move. The film will be cheaper, and Sony can exert more control. Key talent will know that major names like Raimi and Tobey Maguire were let go, fostering the understanding that Sony’s take on the character is more valuable than anything else. That’s the bottom line. For Sony, that gets the movie made the way the studio wants.

But what made the first two films so much fun? What created the franchise momentum that allowed the relatively lousy third film to earn hundreds of millions? Not Sony’s keen business sense (OK, marketing the hell out of the series didn’t hurt) but Sam Raimi’s interest in and passion for the character. He knew what he wanted, and had good ideas about how to get it. He almost always kept the tone right. Raimi created scenes that will stand as indelible examples of the character. The subway sequence in Spider-Man 2 is a stone-cold classic. Spider-Man can thrive without Raimi and/or Maguire, but not if the approach is a calculating one. The character has always been about heart and impetuous, impulsive energy. Those are the things that Sony is poised to kill by making this into pure business.

Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, Will Be ‘Gritty, Contemporary’ Take | /Film

Iunno if I trust it. They say one thing, could turn out to be something else. who can come in after Sam Raimi?

**JINX** · 01-13-2010, 05:51 AM

I forget which ones i saw.. First 1 was bomb i know that maybe the 2nd one i saw too i dunno..

ill just rent em from netflix and burn em

should see my collection

D@MN JOKeR · 01-13-2010, 05:52 AM

1st and 2nd are the ones worth watching. They fucked up the 3rd

D@MN JOKeR · 01-13-2010, 06:01 AM

How much fuckin' hard drive space do you have

D@MN JOKeR · 01-13-2010, 06:05 AM

Yeah I don't buy my movies either. Unless it's something special that I respect

**JINX** · 01-13-2010, 06:16 AM

didn't wanna wreck ur thread

but you know the deal.. Fuck everyone else

IXI J CoRe IXI · 01-13-2010, 06:37 AM

wouldn't it be awesome if Michael Bay directed it? just explosions everywhere? lmao...shit is we'll be getting a shitty story and lots of action...hmmm

K_Dot · 01-13-2010, 07:14 PM

You don't like the 3rd one at all joker? I mean they fucked some shit up but I still thought it was a good movie

rockbottom · 01-13-2010, 07:42 PM

this is gonna be crap

CrakkaJ · 01-13-2010, 07:56 PM

anything would be better than that piece of shit 3rd movie. And maybe they can actually get a HOT chick toplay MJ, not that disgusting ginger biotch

**Canyon Joe** · 01-13-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by D@MN JOKeR

Yeah I don't buy my movies either. Unless it's something special that I respect

i do buy movies. and tv shows. even bought some cd's last week!

i havent seen spiderman 3. i like the first one, second one was ok as far as remember

rockbottom · 01-13-2010, 11:18 PM

im buying all the movies. im insane actually.

henzINNIT · 01-14-2010, 12:10 AM

1 and 2 were brilliant. 3 had flaws but it wasn't all bad. The first shots of the sandman were beautiful, and the action was brilliant. I don't care for Venom so I didn't mind his minimal screen time.

The article lacks something MASSIVE. It implies they booted Raimi because his ideas were bad. It's not that at all from where I'm standing, because he got the boot immediately after we heard his demands for more time breaking the story made them miss their "big release date".

rockbottom · 01-14-2010, 12:11 AM

venom, kirsten dunsts and james francos acting destroyed the film from being awesome

CrazyShady · 01-14-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by henzINNIT

1 and 2 were brilliant. 3 had flaws but it wasn't all bad. The first shots of the sandman were beautiful, and the action was brilliant. I don't care for Venom so I didn't mind his minimal screen time.

The article lacks something MASSIVE. It implies they booted Raimi because his ideas were bad. It's not that at all from where I'm standing, because he got the boot immediately after we heard his demands for more time breaking the story made them miss their "big release date".

agreed here. if raimi really had the time and the power to do it the way he wanted, 3 wudnt have been a shitty movie, and he could have set up a movie for venom as the single antagonist. I really think that Sony looked at where they were in the series, compared it to how it happened in the comics, and went "oh fuck we're screwed". A new spidey movie could be fresh, and now they have an opportunity to get it right properly.

Now if u thought i thought long and hard about this, check out what the guys at IGN talk about in rebootin the series. they got some sick ideas no doubt.

Spider-Man Reboot: Fixing the Franchise - Comics feature - at IGN

01-13-2010, 05:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
JINX Super Moderator DSB Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Age: 22 Posts: 6,064 Rep Power: 10	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take I forget which ones i saw.. First 1 was bomb i know that maybe the 2nd one i saw too i dunno.. ill just rent em from netflix and burn em should see my collection

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D@MN JOKeR Via con me Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crying and getting in touch with my feelings because I'm sensitive and understanding Age: 21 Posts: 11,178 Rep Power: 14	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take 1st and 2nd are the ones worth watching. They fucked up the 3rd __________________ Clareece 'Precious' Jones:[voiceover] My name is Clareece "Precious" Jones. I wish I had a light-skinned boyfriend with real nice hair. And I wanna be on the cover of a magazine. But first I wanna be in one of them BET videos. Keep dreamin', fatty

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D@MN JOKeR Via con me Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crying and getting in touch with my feelings because I'm sensitive and understanding Age: 21 Posts: 11,178 Rep Power: 14	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take How much fuckin' hard drive space do you have __________________ Clareece 'Precious' Jones:[voiceover] My name is Clareece "Precious" Jones. I wish I had a light-skinned boyfriend with real nice hair. And I wanna be on the cover of a magazine. But first I wanna be in one of them BET videos. Keep dreamin', fatty

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D@MN JOKeR Via con me Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crying and getting in touch with my feelings because I'm sensitive and understanding Age: 21 Posts: 11,178 Rep Power: 14	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take Yeah I don't buy my movies either. Unless it's something special that I respect __________________ Clareece 'Precious' Jones:[voiceover] My name is Clareece "Precious" Jones. I wish I had a light-skinned boyfriend with real nice hair. And I wanna be on the cover of a magazine. But first I wanna be in one of them BET videos. Keep dreamin', fatty

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JINX Super Moderator DSB Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Age: 22 Posts: 6,064 Rep Power: 10	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take didn't wanna wreck ur thread but you know the deal.. Fuck everyone else

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IXI J CoRe IXI Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Newark, New Jersey Age: 19 Posts: 1,189 Rep Power: 3	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take wouldn't it be awesome if Michael Bay directed it? just explosions everywhere? lmao...shit is we'll be getting a shitty story and lots of action...hmmm __________________ Eminem - Not Afraid I don't give a damn what you think, I'm doin this for me, so fuck the world Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if it thinks it's stoppin me I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt undoubtedly And all those who look down on me I'm tearin down your balcony

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K_Dot Is Whiteboy Wasted Join Date: Apr 2009 Age: 20 Posts: 394 Rep Power: 2	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take You don't like the 3rd one at all joker? I mean they fucked some shit up but I still thought it was a good movie __________________ Worst Rapper Alive

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rockbottom Nicolas Cage <3<3<3<3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: sweden Age: 24 Posts: 15,489 Rep Power: 17	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take this is gonna be crap

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CrakkaJ Engrish Prease Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 24 Posts: 241 Rep Power: 2	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take anything would be better than that piece of shit 3rd movie. And maybe they can actually get a HOT chick toplay MJ, not that disgusting ginger biotch

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rockbottom Nicolas Cage <3<3<3<3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: sweden Age: 24 Posts: 15,489 Rep Power: 17	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take im buying all the movies. im insane actually.

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henzINNIT Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Age: 20 Posts: 583 Rep Power: 2	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take 1 and 2 were brilliant. 3 had flaws but it wasn't all bad. The first shots of the sandman were beautiful, and the action was brilliant. I don't care for Venom so I didn't mind his minimal screen time. The article lacks something MASSIVE. It implies they booted Raimi because his ideas were bad. It's not that at all from where I'm standing, because he got the boot immediately after we heard his demands for more time breaking the story made them miss their "big release date".

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rockbottom Nicolas Cage <3<3<3<3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: sweden Age: 24 Posts: 15,489 Rep Power: 17	Re: Spider-Man Reboot Already Written, 'Will be Gritty, Contemporary' Take venom, kirsten dunsts and james francos acting destroyed the film from being awesome

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